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		<title>Tony at 12:37, 23 August 2024</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l31&quot;&gt;Line 31:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;2nd cut and alteration: Act III, No. 20. Finale. Pages 370-407. There are two important changes here that I should like to retain. Apart from these, I&amp;#039;ve made some cuts and redistributions of parts, which are only relevant to the local circumstances of the [[Petersburg]] production. Therefore, everything else remains as it was before. But if you decide to do a 2nd edition, then there are a few misprints you need to correct anyway, and also, in accordance with the censor&amp;#039;s demands, the Archbishop must become a Cardinal. I&amp;#039;ve noted all the corrections on the title page, and put the pages on which they occur. If the text is to be translated, the Archbishop needs to be retained, therefore &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Erzbischop&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (as [[Schiller]] has it), and the scene where he shows Joan the cross should also remain the same, because the censor&amp;#039;s prohibition doesn&amp;#039;t apply to the Germans.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;2nd cut and alteration: Act III, No. 20. Finale. Pages 370-407. There are two important changes here that I should like to retain. Apart from these, I&amp;#039;ve made some cuts and redistributions of parts, which are only relevant to the local circumstances of the [[Petersburg]] production. Therefore, everything else remains as it was before. But if you decide to do a 2nd edition, then there are a few misprints you need to correct anyway, and also, in accordance with the censor&amp;#039;s demands, the Archbishop must become a Cardinal. I&amp;#039;ve noted all the corrections on the title page, and put the pages on which they occur. If the text is to be translated, the Archbishop needs to be retained, therefore &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Erzbischop&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (as [[Schiller]] has it), and the scene where he shows Joan the cross should also remain the same, because the censor&amp;#039;s prohibition doesn&amp;#039;t apply to the Germans.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;On pages 449, 450, 451, 452 it&amp;#039;s essential to print the 2 notes and markings I&amp;#039;ve made, thereby obliging the theatrical censor and avoiding the need to cut the music, which I rate highly in this passage&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;On pages 449, 450, 451, 452&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;it&amp;#039;s essential to print the 2 notes and markings I&amp;#039;ve made, thereby obliging the theatrical censor and avoiding the need to cut the music, which I rate highly in this passage&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If it comes to a 2nd edition, then I want to do the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;proofreading&lt;/del&gt;. I embrace you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If it comes to a 2nd edition, then I want to do the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;proof-reading&lt;/ins&gt;. I embrace you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{right|P. Tchaikovsky}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{right|P. Tchaikovsky}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;P. S. It goes without saying that the page numbering will change.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;P. S. It goes without saying that the page numbering will change.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tony</name></author>
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		<title>Brett: 1 revision imported</title>
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		<updated>2022-07-12T12:39:22Z</updated>

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		<title>Brett at 22:28, 13 February 2021</title>
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		<updated>2021-02-13T22:28:52Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{letterhead&lt;br /&gt;
|Date=25 May/6 June 1881&lt;br /&gt;
|To=[[Pyotr Jurgenson]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Place=[[Kamenka]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Language=Russian&lt;br /&gt;
|Autograph=[[Klin]] (Russia): {{RUS-KLč}} (a{{sup|3}}, No. 2336)&lt;br /&gt;
|Publication={{bib|1938/40|П. И. Чайковский. Переписка с П. И. Юргенсоном ; том 1}} (1938), p. 192&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{bib|1966/44|П. И. Чайковский. Полное собрание сочинений ; том X}} (1966), p. 123&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Text and Translation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Lettertext&lt;br /&gt;
|Language=Russian&lt;br /&gt;
|Translator=Brett Langston&lt;br /&gt;
|Original text={{right|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;25 мая 1881&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Каменка&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
Друг мой! посылаю тебе «&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Орлеанскую деву&amp;#039;&amp;#039;». Из сделанных в этом экземпляре сокращений и изменений я бы желал сохранить только следующие два (они уже сделаны и в подлинной моей партитуре, которую прошу тебя достать из Дирекции).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Сокращение&amp;#039;&amp;#039; и изменение 1-ое: Действие II-оe № 12 между стр[аницами] 166-173.&lt;br /&gt;
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Сокращение и изменение 2-ое: Действие III-е № 20. Финал. Стр[аницы] 370-407. Вот два существенных изменения, которые я желал бы оставить. Кроме их, ввиду петербургских условий постановки, были сделаны некоторые сокращения и перетасовки партий, которые имеют только местное значение. Итак, все остальное остаётся по-старому. Но уж если ты решишься сделать 2-ое издание, то, кстати, нужно исправить кое-какие опечатки, а также, согласно требованию цензуры, переделать Архиепископа в Кардиналы. Все поправки я отметил и на заглавном листе выставил страницы, на коих они имеются. В случае если текст будет переводиться, нужно чтобы Архиепископ остался таковым, следовательно &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Erzbischop&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (как у Шиллер), и в сцене, где он показывает Иоaнне крест, так и должно остаться, ибо цензурное запрещение не относится к немцам. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Необходимо на стр[аницах]: 449, 450, 451, 452 — напечатать сделанные мною 2 примечания и знаки. Таким образом, мы и театральной цензуре угодим и избегнем надобности сокращать музыку, которою в этом месте я дорожу&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Если дойдёт дело до 2-го издания, то я желаю сделать его корректуру. Обнимаю тебя.&lt;br /&gt;
{{right|П. Чайковский}}&lt;br /&gt;
Р. S. Само собой разумеется, что счёт страниц изменится.&lt;br /&gt;
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|Translated text={{right|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;25 May 1881&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Kamenka]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
My friend! I&amp;#039;m sending you &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[The Maid of Orleans]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;. Amongst the cuts and alterations made in this copy, I should like to keep only the following two (they&amp;#039;ve already been made in my original score, which I ask you to obtain from the Directorate). &lt;br /&gt;
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1st &amp;#039;&amp;#039;cut&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and alteration: Act II, No. 12, between pages 166 and 173.&lt;br /&gt;
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2nd cut and alteration: Act III, No. 20. Finale. Pages 370-407. There are two important changes here that I should like to retain. Apart from these, I&amp;#039;ve made some cuts and redistributions of parts, which are only relevant to the local circumstances of the [[Petersburg]] production. Therefore, everything else remains as it was before. But if you decide to do a 2nd edition, then there are a few misprints you need to correct anyway, and also, in accordance with the censor&amp;#039;s demands, the Archbishop must become a Cardinal. I&amp;#039;ve noted all the corrections on the title page, and put the pages on which they occur. If the text is to be translated, the Archbishop needs to be retained, therefore &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Erzbischop&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (as [[Schiller]] has it), and the scene where he shows Joan the cross should also remain the same, because the censor&amp;#039;s prohibition doesn&amp;#039;t apply to the Germans. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;On pages 449, 450, 451, 452 it&amp;#039;s essential to print the 2 notes and markings I&amp;#039;ve made, thereby obliging the theatrical censor and avoiding the need to cut the music, which I rate highly in this passage&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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If it comes to a 2nd edition, then I want to do the proofreading. I embrace you.&lt;br /&gt;
{{right|P. Tchaikovsky}}&lt;br /&gt;
P. S. It goes without saying that the page numbering will change.&lt;br /&gt;
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