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Tony: "mid-June" for consistency

2024-12-16T11:06:18Z

"mid-June" for consistency

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	==Notes and References==		==Notes and References==
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	<ref name="note1">The composer's brother [[Modest]] had had to have an abscess lanced in two separate painful operations. Exasperated by the conduct of his eldest niece, [[Tatyana Davydova]], Tchaikovsky had decided to leave [[Kamenka]] in early/mid June and had gone to [[Nikolay Konradi]]'s family estate at [[Grankino]] to be with [[Modest]] and his pupil — see {{bib\|1993/186\| Tchaikovsky. The quest for the inner man}} (1993), p. 406–408.</ref>		<ref name="note1">The composer's brother [[Modest]] had had to have an abscess lanced in two separate painful operations. Exasperated by the conduct of his eldest niece, [[Tatyana Davydova]], Tchaikovsky had decided to leave [[Kamenka]] in early/mid-June and had gone to [[Nikolay Konradi]]'s family estate at [[Grankino]] to be with [[Modest]] and his pupil — see {{bib\|1993/186\| Tchaikovsky. The quest for the inner man}} (1993), p. 406–408.</ref>
	<ref name="note2">On 18/30 June 1882, [[Taneyev]] had written to Tchaikovsky from Selishche (in Oryol Province), the estate of his friends [[Fyodor Maslov]] and his three sisters, saying that everyone was expecting him in Selishche. [[Taneyev]]'s letter has been published in {{bib\|1951/54\|П. И. Чайковский. С. И. Танеев. Письма}} (1951), p. 80.</ref>		<ref name="note2">On 18/30 June 1882, [[Taneyev]] had written to Tchaikovsky from Selishche (in Oryol Province), the estate of his friends [[Fyodor Maslov]] and his three sisters, saying that everyone was expecting him in Selishche. [[Taneyev]]'s letter has been published in {{bib\|1951/54\|П. И. Чайковский. С. И. Танеев. Письма}} (1951), p. 80.</ref>
	<ref name="note3">i.e. so that the Maslovs could send their coachman with a carriage to Karachev station (on the [[Moscow]]-Oryol-Vitebsk railway line) to pick up Tchaikovsky and drive him to Selishche.</ref>		<ref name="note3">i.e. so that the Maslovs could send their coachman with a carriage to Karachev station (on the [[Moscow]]-Oryol-Vitebsk railway line) to pick up Tchaikovsky and drive him to Selishche.</ref>
	<ref name="note4">In his letter of 18/30 June 1882 [[Taneyev]] reported briefly on how the [[Piano Concerto No. 2]] had been received at its first performance in Russia, at a concert held in [[Moscow]] on 21 May/2 June 1882 as part of the Arts and Industrial Exhibition, with [[Taneyev]] himself as the soloist and [[Anton Rubinstein]] conducting. Tchaikovsky had left [[Moscow]] a few weeks before the concert to travel to [[Kamenka]] for the summer. (The concerto was in fact premiered outside Russia, namely in [[New York]] on 31 October/12 November 1881, with Madeline Schiller as the soloist, and [[Theodore Thomas]] conducting).</ref>		<ref name="note4">In his letter of 18/30 June 1882, [[Taneyev]] reported briefly on how the [[Piano Concerto No. 2]] had been received at its first performance in Russia, at a concert held in [[Moscow]] on 21 May/2 June 1882 as part of the Arts and Industrial Exhibition, with [[Taneyev]] himself as the soloist and [[Anton Rubinstein]] conducting. Tchaikovsky had left [[Moscow]] a few weeks before the concert to travel to [[Kamenka]] for the summer. (The concerto was in fact premiered outside Russia, namely in [[New York]] on 31 October/12 November 1881, with Madeline Schiller as the soloist, and [[Theodore Thomas]] conducting).</ref>
	<ref name="note5">\|This is what [[Taneyev]] wrote about how the [[Piano Concerto No. 2]] had been received in [[Moscow]]: "Opinions about it are quite diverse, but they all agree that the first and second movements are too long. I have heard comments like this: that it is one of the most beautiful concertos and that in performance it sounds ~~brilliantly~~; but there were also comments on how the [[Piano Concerto No. 1\|first concerto]] should be given preference over the second, etc. There are few who approve of the violin and cello ''solos'' in the second movement. Instead, people are saying that the piano is superfluous in that movement, and this is something with which I think one cannot but agree: the balance is far too skewed towards these other two instruments. The overall feeling, though, is that this is a concerto which can most definitely be played in public".</ref>		<ref name="note5">\|This is what [[Taneyev]] wrote about how the [[Piano Concerto No. 2]] had been received in [[Moscow]]: "Opinions about it are quite diverse, but they all agree that the first and second movements are too long. I have heard comments like this: that it is one of the most beautiful concertos and that in performance it sounds brilliant; but there were also comments on how the [[Piano Concerto No. 1\|first concerto]] should be given preference over the second, etc. There are few who approve of the violin and cello ''solos'' in the second movement. Instead, people are saying that the piano is superfluous in that movement, and this is something with which I think one cannot but agree: the balance is far too skewed towards these other two instruments. The overall feeling, though, is that this is a concerto which can most definitely be played in public".</ref>
	<ref name="note6">[[Taneyev]] had been commissioned by the [[Moscow]] Conservatory's new director, [[ Nikolay Hubert]], to write an overture for the Arts and Industrial Exhibition in [[Moscow]] that summer. [[Taneyev]] himself conducted the first performance of his ''Overture on a Russian Theme'' in C major (based on a song from [[Rimsky-Korsakov]]'s 1876 anthology ''100 Russian Folk-Songs'') at the Exhibition's fifth symphonic concert on 13/25 June 1882. For more information on the overture, see [[Sergey Popov]], «Неизданные сочинения и работы С. И. Танеева — Арехеографический очерк» (Unpublished compositions and works by S. I. Taneyev. An archaeographical outline) in ''Сергей Иванович Танеев. Личность, творчество и документы его жизни'' ([[Moscow]] / [[Leningrad]], 1925), p. 138–139.</ref>		<ref name="note6">[[Taneyev]] had been commissioned by the [[Moscow]] Conservatory's new director, [[ Nikolay Hubert]], to write an overture for the Arts and Industrial Exhibition in [[Moscow]] that summer. [[Taneyev]] himself conducted the first performance of his ''Overture on a Russian Theme'' in C major (based on a song from [[Rimsky-Korsakov]]'s 1876 anthology ''100 Russian Folk-Songs'') at the Exhibition's fifth symphonic concert on 13/25 June 1882. For more information on the overture, see [[Sergey Popov]], «Неизданные сочинения и работы С. И. Танеева — Арехеографический очерк» (Unpublished compositions and works by S. I. Taneyev. An archaeographical outline) in ''Сергей Иванович Танеев. Личность, творчество и документы его жизни'' ([[Moscow]] / [[Leningrad]], 1925), p. 138–139.</ref>
	</references>		</references>

Tony: "Litte-Russian" to "Little-Russian"

2024-12-14T12:28:58Z

"Litte-Russian" to "Little-Russian"

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	\|Translated text={{right\|''[[Grankino]]''<br/>11 July }}		\|Translated text={{right\|''[[Grankino]]''<br/>11 July }}
	[[Sergey Ivanovich]]! I am sharing here, in the depths of the ~~Litte~~-Russian steppe, the solitude of my brother [[Modest]] who was ill and had to undergo an operation, and who in fact still hasn't recovered fully <ref name="note1"/>. I really do not know when I will be able to get away from here, because apart from my brother's state of health, there are also business matters detaining me here, and so I cannot tell you anything definite as to whether I can visit Selishche <ref name="note2"/>. It is quite possible that in the latter half of this month I will go to Moscow with my brother, and in that case I may perhaps travel on to your place, but, truly, I can't say anything for certain. In the event that I decide on making this trip, I shall notify you in good time so that I can have horses sent to me <ref name="note3"/>. I'm not asking you to write back, because until all the interrogation signs regarding the near future have been cleared up, I cannot give you any address. Regards to all the Maslovs.		[[Sergey Ivanovich]]! I am sharing here, in the depths of the Little-Russian steppe, the solitude of my brother [[Modest]] who was ill and had to undergo an operation, and who in fact still hasn't recovered fully <ref name="note1"/>. I really do not know when I will be able to get away from here, because apart from my brother's state of health, there are also business matters detaining me here, and so I cannot tell you anything definite as to whether I can visit Selishche <ref name="note2"/>. It is quite possible that in the latter half of this month I will go to Moscow with my brother, and in that case I may perhaps travel on to your place, but, truly, I can't say anything for certain. In the event that I decide on making this trip, I shall notify you in good time so that I can have horses sent to me <ref name="note3"/>. I'm not asking you to write back, because until all the interrogation signs regarding the near future have been cleared up, I cannot give you any address. Regards to all the Maslovs.
	{{right\|Yours, P. Tchaikovsky}}		{{right\|Yours, P. Tchaikovsky}}
	P. S. Forgive me for the slovenly style of this letter.		P. S. Forgive me for the slovenly style of this letter.

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{{letterhead
|Date=11/23 July 1882
|To=[[Sergey Taneyev]]
|Place=[[Grankino]]
|Language=Russian
|Autograph=[[Moscow]]: {{RUS-Mcl}} (ф. 880)
|Publication={{bib|1916/16|Письма П. И. Чайковского и С. И. Танеева}} [1916], p. 82<br/>{{bib|1951/54|П. И. Чайковский. С. И. Танеев. Письма}} (1951), p. 80–81<br/>{{bib|1966/43|П. И. Чайковский. Полное собрание сочинений ; том XI}} (1966), p. 162
}}

==Text and Translation==
{{Lettertext
|Language=Russian
|Translator=Luis Sundkvist
|Original text={{right|''Гранкино''<br/>11 июля}}
Сергей Иванович! Я здесь, в глуши малороссийской степи, разделяю одиночество брата Модеста, который был болен, выдержал операцию, да и до сих пор ещё не поправился. Решительно не знаю, когда можно будет отсюда выбраться, ибо кроме здоровья брата удерживают здесь дела, и потому ничего решительного о посещении Селища не скажу Вам. Весьма может статься, что во 2-ой половине сего месяца попаду с братом в Москву и в таком случае, быть может, из Москвы проеду к Вам, — но, ей-Богу, верного ничего не знаю. В случае, если решу поездку, то своевременно извещу, дабы мне прислали лошадей. Не прошу Вас писать мне, ибо, покамест не разъяснятся все вопросительные знаки, касающиеся ближайшего будущего, не могу дать никакого адреса.
Кланяйтесь всем Масловым.

{{right|Ваш, П. Чайковский}}
P. S. Простите за безалаберность письма.

Премного благодарен за исполнение концерта. Признаю охотно, что он страдает длиннотою, и жалею, что те люди, коим два года тому назад было вверено критическое рассмотрение его, своевременно не указали этого недостатка. Они бы этим оказали мне большую услугу, может быть, даже бóльшую, чем превосходное исполнение этого концерта в его настоящем, столь несовершенном виде. Тем не менее, merci, merci, merci.

Сгораю желанием видеть партитуру увертюры.

|Translated text={{right|''[[Grankino]]''<br/>11 July }}
[[Sergey Ivanovich]]! I am sharing here, in the depths of the Litte-Russian steppe, the solitude of my brother [[Modest]] who was ill and had to undergo an operation, and who in fact still hasn't recovered fully <ref name="note1"/>. I really do not know when I will be able to get away from here, because apart from my brother's state of health, there are also business matters detaining me here, and so I cannot tell you anything definite as to whether I can visit Selishche <ref name="note2"/>. It is quite possible that in the latter half of this month I will go to Moscow with my brother, and in that case I may perhaps travel on to your place, but, truly, I can't say anything for certain. In the event that I decide on making this trip, I shall notify you in good time so that I can have horses sent to me <ref name="note3"/>. I'm not asking you to write back, because until all the interrogation signs regarding the near future have been cleared up, I cannot give you any address. Regards to all the Maslovs.
{{right|Yours, P. Tchaikovsky}}
P. S. Forgive me for the slovenly style of this letter.

I am extremely grateful to you for performing the concerto <ref name="note4"/>. I readily admit that it is marred by excessive length <ref name="note5"/>, and I am sorry that those people whom two years ago I asked to look through it with a critical eye did not point out this flaw in good time. They would thereby have rendered me a great service — perhaps an even greater one than giving a splendid performance of this concerto in its present, so imperfect, shape. Nevertheless, merci, merci, merci.

I have a burning desire to see the score of the overture <ref name="note6"/>.
}}

==Notes and References==
<references>
<ref name="note1">The composer's brother [[Modest]] had had to have an abscess lanced in two separate painful operations. Exasperated by the conduct of his eldest niece, [[Tatyana Davydova]], Tchaikovsky had decided to leave [[Kamenka]] in early/mid June and had gone to [[Nikolay Konradi]]'s family estate at [[Grankino]] to be with [[Modest]] and his pupil — see {{bib|1993/186| Tchaikovsky. The quest for the inner man}} (1993), p. 406–408.</ref>
<ref name="note2">On 18/30 June 1882, [[Taneyev]] had written to Tchaikovsky from Selishche (in Oryol Province), the estate of his friends [[Fyodor Maslov]] and his three sisters, saying that everyone was expecting him in Selishche. [[Taneyev]]'s letter has been published in {{bib|1951/54|П. И. Чайковский. С. И. Танеев. Письма}} (1951), p. 80.</ref>
<ref name="note3">i.e. so that the Maslovs could send their coachman with a carriage to Karachev station (on the [[Moscow]]-Oryol-Vitebsk railway line) to pick up Tchaikovsky and drive him to Selishche.</ref>
<ref name="note4">In his letter of 18/30 June 1882 [[Taneyev]] reported briefly on how the [[Piano Concerto No. 2]] had been received at its first performance in Russia, at a concert held in [[Moscow]] on 21 May/2 June 1882 as part of the Arts and Industrial Exhibition, with [[Taneyev]] himself as the soloist and [[Anton Rubinstein]] conducting. Tchaikovsky had left [[Moscow]] a few weeks before the concert to travel to [[Kamenka]] for the summer. (The concerto was in fact premiered outside Russia, namely in [[New York]] on 31 October/12 November 1881, with Madeline Schiller as the soloist, and [[Theodore Thomas]] conducting).</ref>
<ref name="note5">|This is what [[Taneyev]] wrote about how the [[Piano Concerto No. 2]] had been received in [[Moscow]]: "Opinions about it are quite diverse, but they all agree that the first and second movements are too long. I have heard comments like this: that it is one of the most beautiful concertos and that in performance it sounds brilliantly; but there were also comments on how the [[Piano Concerto No. 1|first concerto]] should be given preference over the second, etc. There are few who approve of the violin and cello ''solos'' in the second movement. Instead, people are saying that the piano is superfluous in that movement, and this is something with which I think one cannot but agree: the balance is far too skewed towards these other two instruments. The overall feeling, though, is that this is a concerto which can most definitely be played in public".</ref>
<ref name="note6">[[Taneyev]] had been commissioned by the [[Moscow]] Conservatory's new director, [[ Nikolay Hubert]], to write an overture for the Arts and Industrial Exhibition in [[Moscow]] that summer. [[Taneyev]] himself conducted the first performance of his ''Overture on a Russian Theme'' in C major (based on a song from [[Rimsky-Korsakov]]'s 1876 anthology ''100 Russian Folk-Songs'') at the Exhibition's fifth symphonic concert on 13/25 June 1882. For more information on the overture, see [[Sergey Popov]], «Неизданные сочинения и работы С. И. Танеева — Арехеографический очерк» (Unpublished compositions and works by S. I. Taneyev. An archaeographical outline) in ''Сергей Иванович Танеев. Личность, творчество и документы его жизни'' ([[Moscow]] / [[Leningrad]], 1925), p. 138–139.</ref>
</references>