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		<title>Tony: &quot;this&quot; to &quot;these&quot; due to context</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;this&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;these&amp;quot; due to context&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;|Translated text={{right|{{datestyle||{{sic|19|20}} March]| l April|1883. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Paris]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;|Translated text={{right|{{datestyle||{{sic|19|20}} March]| l April|1883. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Paris]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the middle of August, while I was in [[Moscow]], I already had in my hands the manuscript of the [[All-Night Vigil]], with the censor&amp;#039;s alterations. You asked me then to make &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;this &lt;/del&gt;alterations. Some of them were petty, but not unfounded, and so I did them. As for the others, I wrote an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;explanation for the censor&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, which I brought to you (and if you remember, I also found [[Rimsky-Korsakov]] there), and I gave you my written rebuttal to the pedantic old man. What happened to this explanation? Either you mislaid it and didn&amp;#039;t send it to the censor, or the latter is so stubborn and foolish that there&amp;#039;s no dealing with him. The funny thing is that I didn&amp;#039;t compose the music to the text of the vigil, but I copied it from a book published by the Synod. I harmonised every chant just as it was written in the book, and the words I don&amp;#039;t have are not even present in the Synod&amp;#039;s music book. Since the omissions indicated by the censor are in a specific number which contains &amp;#039;&amp;#039;nothing of mine&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, then &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I do not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;cannot&amp;#039;&amp;#039; fulfil his demand to insert words for which there is no original chant in this instance. Furthermore, the censor declares here that he is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;unaware of the orders&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of service. The kathisma &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Blessed is the Man&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot; is from the psalm of David. It is never sung in its entirety anywhere, let alone with &amp;#039;&amp;#039;this&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in one place and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;that&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in another. Wherever the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kiev&amp;#039;&amp;#039; chant has been adopted, let them sing 3 couplets, and where it&amp;#039;s the Znamensky, the 4: for the most part &amp;#039;&amp;#039;only the first two verses&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are sung in our time. I recall that there was another amendment which demonstrated his musical ignorance, i.e. he imagined that no words were repeated, because instead of writing it out three times, I used an abbreviation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the middle of August, while I was in [[Moscow]], I already had in my hands the manuscript of the [[All-Night Vigil]], with the censor&amp;#039;s alterations. You asked me then to make &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;these &lt;/ins&gt;alterations. Some of them were petty, but not unfounded, and so I did them. As for the others, I wrote an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;explanation for the censor&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, which I brought to you (and if you remember, I also found [[Rimsky-Korsakov]] there), and I gave you my written rebuttal to the pedantic old man. What happened to this explanation? Either you mislaid it and didn&amp;#039;t send it to the censor, or the latter is so stubborn and foolish that there&amp;#039;s no dealing with him. The funny thing is that I didn&amp;#039;t compose the music to the text of the vigil, but I copied it from a book published by the Synod. I harmonised every chant just as it was written in the book, and the words I don&amp;#039;t have are not even present in the Synod&amp;#039;s music book. Since the omissions indicated by the censor are in a specific number which contains &amp;#039;&amp;#039;nothing of mine&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, then &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I do not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;cannot&amp;#039;&amp;#039; fulfil his demand to insert words for which there is no original chant in this instance. Furthermore, the censor declares here that he is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;unaware of the orders&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of service. The kathisma &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Blessed is the Man&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot; is from the psalm of David. It is never sung in its entirety anywhere, let alone with &amp;#039;&amp;#039;this&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in one place and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;that&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in another. Wherever the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kiev&amp;#039;&amp;#039; chant has been adopted, let them sing 3 couplets, and where it&amp;#039;s the Znamensky, the 4: for the most part&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;only the first two verses&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are sung in our time. I recall that there was another amendment which demonstrated his musical ignorance, i.e. he imagined that no words were repeated, because instead of writing it out three times, I used an abbreviation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In short, I&amp;#039;ve corrected everything that can and should be corrected. But I do not &amp;#039;&amp;#039;want&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to fulfil the whims of this witless pedant. He isn&amp;#039;t my instructor, and the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Synod Book&amp;#039;&amp;#039; takes precedence over him. You need to formally complain about him. What a son of a bitch — he&amp;#039;s ruined my whole day!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In short, I&amp;#039;ve corrected everything that can and should be corrected. But I do not &amp;#039;&amp;#039;want&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to fulfil the whims of this witless pedant. He isn&amp;#039;t my instructor, and the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Synod Book&amp;#039;&amp;#039; takes precedence over him. You need to formally complain about him. What a son of a bitch — he&amp;#039;s ruined my whole day!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tony</name></author>
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		<title>Brett: 1 revision imported</title>
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		<updated>2022-07-12T12:20:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1 revision imported&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Brett</name></author>
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		<title>Brett at 20:06, 31 May 2021</title>
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|Date=20 March/1 April 1883&lt;br /&gt;
|To=[[Pyotr Jurgenson]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Place=[[Paris]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Language=Russian&lt;br /&gt;
|Autograph=[[Klin]] (Russia): {{RUS-KLč}} (a{{sup|3}}, No. 2416)&lt;br /&gt;
|Publication={{bib|1901/24|Жизнь Петра Ильича Чайковского ; том 2}} (1901), p. 578–579 (&amp;quot;19 March&amp;quot;; abridged)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{bib|1938/40|П. И. Чайковский. Переписка с П. И. Юргенсоном ; том 1}} (1938), p. 292–293&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{bib|1970/86|П. И. Чайковский. Полное собрание сочинений ; том XII}} (1970), p. 88–89&lt;br /&gt;
|Notes=Original incorrectly dated &amp;quot;19 March/1 April&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Text and Translation==&lt;br /&gt;
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|Translator=Brett Langston&lt;br /&gt;
|Original text={{right|{{datestyle||{{sic|19|20}} м[арта]| l апреля|1883. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Париж&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
В половине августа, бывши в Москве, я имел уже в руках рукопись всенощной с поправками цензора. Ты просил меня тогда эти поправки сделать. Иные из них мелочные, но не лишённые смысла, я и сделал. Относительно же других написал &amp;#039;&amp;#039;для цензора объяснение&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, которое и принёс тебе и, если помнишь, застал ещё у тебя Римского-Корсакова, при коем и передал тебе мою письменную отповедь придирчивому старцу. Куда это объяснение девалось? Или ты его забросил и не послал цензору, или же сей последний так упорен и глуп, — что с ним нельзя дело иметь. Штука в том, что я не сочинял музыку на текст всенощной, а перелагал с книги, изданной Синодом. Как в этой книге записан напев, — так я его и гармонизировал; и те слова, коих у меня нет, нет и в Синодальной нотной книге. Так как пропуски, отмеченные цензором, находятся в таком именно номере, где &amp;#039;&amp;#039;ничего моего&amp;#039;&amp;#039; нет, то я &amp;#039;&amp;#039;не хочу&amp;#039;&amp;#039; и не &amp;#039;&amp;#039;могу&amp;#039;&amp;#039; исполнить его требование вставить слова, для коих в данном случае нет подлинного напева. Кроме того, цензор заявляет тут своё &amp;#039;&amp;#039;незнание порядков&amp;#039;&amp;#039; службы. Кафизма «&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Блажен муж&amp;#039;&amp;#039;» есть псалом Давида. Никогда его целиком нигде не поют, а про пускают одни &amp;#039;&amp;#039;то&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, а другие &amp;#039;&amp;#039;другое&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Там, где принят &amp;#039;&amp;#039;киевский&amp;#039;&amp;#039; напев, поют положим 3 куплета, а там, где знаменский 4: по большей же части в наше время поют &amp;#039;&amp;#039;только первые два стиха&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Помнится, была ещё поправка, которая выказала его музыкальное невежество, т. е. он вообразил, что нет какого-то повторения слов, ибо у меня был вместо троекратного выписывания знак сокращения&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2242 ex1.jpg|center|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
Одним словом все, что можно и должно поправить, я поправил. А исполнять капризы этого безмозглого педанта не &amp;#039;&amp;#039;хочу&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Для меня он не указчик, и &amp;#039;&amp;#039;синодская книга&amp;#039;&amp;#039; важнее его. Нужно пожаловаться на него кому следует. Этакий сукин сын, — расстроил меня на целый день!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Если же ты хочешь уконтентовать его во что бы то ни стало, — то пусть кто другой изменит и прибавит сколько угодно, а я не хочу.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Новую пиэсу Бортнянского нужно будет аранжировать, — но я принуждён это отложить, ибо ей Богу минут свободных нет из-за марша и кантаты.&lt;br /&gt;
{{right|Твой П. Ч.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|Translated text={{right|{{datestyle||{{sic|19|20}} March]| l April|1883. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Paris]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
In the middle of August, while I was in [[Moscow]], I already had in my hands the manuscript of the [[All-Night Vigil]], with the censor&amp;#039;s alterations. You asked me then to make this alterations. Some of them were petty, but not unfounded, and so I did them. As for the others, I wrote an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;explanation for the censor&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, which I brought to you (and if you remember, I also found [[Rimsky-Korsakov]] there), and I gave you my written rebuttal to the pedantic old man. What happened to this explanation? Either you mislaid it and didn&amp;#039;t send it to the censor, or the latter is so stubborn and foolish that there&amp;#039;s no dealing with him. The funny thing is that I didn&amp;#039;t compose the music to the text of the vigil, but I copied it from a book published by the Synod. I harmonised every chant just as it was written in the book, and the words I don&amp;#039;t have are not even present in the Synod&amp;#039;s music book. Since the omissions indicated by the censor are in a specific number which contains &amp;#039;&amp;#039;nothing of mine&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, then &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I do not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;cannot&amp;#039;&amp;#039; fulfil his demand to insert words for which there is no original chant in this instance. Furthermore, the censor declares here that he is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;unaware of the orders&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of service. The kathisma &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Blessed is the Man&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot; is from the psalm of David. It is never sung in its entirety anywhere, let alone with &amp;#039;&amp;#039;this&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in one place and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;that&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in another. Wherever the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kiev&amp;#039;&amp;#039; chant has been adopted, let them sing 3 couplets, and where it&amp;#039;s the Znamensky, the 4: for the most part &amp;#039;&amp;#039;only the first two verses&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are sung in our time. I recall that there was another amendment which demonstrated his musical ignorance, i.e. he imagined that no words were repeated, because instead of writing it out three times, I used an abbreviation&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2242 ex1.jpg|center|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
In short, I&amp;#039;ve corrected everything that can and should be corrected. But I do not &amp;#039;&amp;#039;want&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to fulfil the whims of this witless pedant. He isn&amp;#039;t my instructor, and the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Synod Book&amp;#039;&amp;#039; takes precedence over him. You need to formally complain about him. What a son of a bitch — he&amp;#039;s ruined my whole day!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to acquiesce to him, then by all means do so — but let someone else change and add to it as they see fit, because I don&amp;#039;t want to.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bortnyansky]]&amp;#039;s new pieces will have to be arranged, but I must postpone this, because by God I don&amp;#039;t have a free moment because of the march and the cantata.&lt;br /&gt;
{{right|Yours P. T.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Brett</name></author>
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