Letter 4706a - Revision history

Brett at 22:14, 25 December 2022

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	==Notes and References==		==Notes and References==
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	<ref name="note1">This letter, written on notepaper from the ''Etablissement Thermal de Vichy'', is dated simply "24 June 1892", with no indication as to whether this was an [[~~old style~~]] or [[~~new style~~]] date. Tchaikovsky visited [[Vichy]] from 12/24 June to 3/15 July that year, but he only stayed at what he called the ''Hôtel des Thermes'' for a few days before moving to the ''Hôtel Grande Bretagne'' (see [[Letter 4710]] to [[Modest Tchaikovsky]], 19 June/1 July 1892). Furthermore, Tchaikovsky mentioned the present letter when writing to [[Jurgenson]] on 22 June/4 July 1892 in [[Letter 4714]]: "'[[Thomas]] wrote to me, and I replied to him — but only his musical questions. He asked if I had a vocal work (not an opera), and I indicated the cantata "''[[Moscow (cantata)\|Moscow]]''". If the deal comes off then you'll need to arrange for a translation". On this basis, 24 June must be presumed to be the "~~new style~~" date, meaning that the present letter must have been written on the day of his arrival in [[Vichy]] on 12/24 June 1892.</ref>		<ref name="note1">This letter, written on notepaper from the ''Etablissement Thermal de Vichy'', is dated simply "24 June 1892", with no indication as to whether this was an [[Old Style]] or [[New Style]] date. Tchaikovsky visited [[Vichy]] from 12/24 June to 3/15 July that year, but he only stayed at what he called the ''Hôtel des Thermes'' for a few days before moving to the ''Hôtel Grande Bretagne'' (see [[Letter 4710]] to [[Modest Tchaikovsky]], 19 June/1 July 1892). Furthermore, Tchaikovsky mentioned the present letter when writing to [[Jurgenson]] on 22 June/4 July 1892 in [[Letter 4714]]: "'[[Thomas]] wrote to me, and I replied to him — but only his musical questions. He asked if I had a vocal work (not an opera), and I indicated the cantata "''[[Moscow (cantata)\|Moscow]]''". If the deal comes off then you'll need to arrange for a translation". On this basis, 24 June must be presumed to be the "New Style" date, meaning that the present letter must have been written on the day of his arrival in [[Vichy]] on 12/24 June 1892.</ref>
	<ref name="note2">The autograph was auctioned on 13 December 2022 by Bonhams in [[New York]] [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27633/lot/92/tchaikovsky-mentions-his-moscow-cantata-tchaikovsky-pyotr-illyich-1840-1893-autograph-letter-signed-p-tchaikovsky-to-friend-and-conductor-theodore-thomas-regarding-an-upcoming-performance-and-a-possible-new-work/]</ref>		<ref name="note2">The autograph was auctioned on 13 December 2022 by Bonhams in [[New York]] [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27633/lot/92/tchaikovsky-mentions-his-moscow-cantata-tchaikovsky-pyotr-illyich-1840-1893-autograph-letter-signed-p-tchaikovsky-to-friend-and-conductor-theodore-thomas-regarding-an-upcoming-performance-and-a-possible-new-work/]</ref>
	<ref name="note3">[[Theodore Thomas]] had given the American premiere of Tchaikovsky's [[Symphony No. 5]] at the Chickering Hall in New York on 21 February/5 March 1889.</ref>		<ref name="note3">[[Theodore Thomas]] had given the American premiere of Tchaikovsky's [[Symphony No. 5]] at the Chickering Hall in New York on 21 February/5 March 1889.</ref>
	</references>		</references>

Brett at 11:51, 23 December 2022

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	==Notes and References==		==Notes and References==
	<references>		<references>
	<ref name="note1">This letter, written on notepaper from the ''Etablissement Thermal de Vichy'', is dated simply "24 June 1892", with no indication as to whether this was an [[old style]] or [[new style]] date. Tchaikovsky visited [[Vichy]] from 12/24 June to 3/15 July that year, but he only stayed at what he called the ''Hôtel des Thermes'' for a few days before moving to the ''Hôtel Grande Bretagne'' (see [[Letter 4710]] to [[Modest Tchaikovsky]], 19 June/1 July 1892). Furthermore, Tchaikovsky mentioned the present letter when writing to [[Jurgenson]] on 22 June/4 July 1892 in [[Letter 4714]]: "'[[Thomas]] wrote to me, and I replied to him — but only his musical questions. He asked if I had a vocal work (not an opera), and I indicated the cantata "''[[Moscow (cantata)\|Moscow]]''". If the deal comes off then you'll need to arrange for a translation". On this basis, 24 June must be presumed to be the "~~old~~ style" date, meaning that the present letter must have been written on the day of his arrival in [[Vichy]] on 12/24 June 1892.</ref>		<ref name="note1">This letter, written on notepaper from the ''Etablissement Thermal de Vichy'', is dated simply "24 June 1892", with no indication as to whether this was an [[old style]] or [[new style]] date. Tchaikovsky visited [[Vichy]] from 12/24 June to 3/15 July that year, but he only stayed at what he called the ''Hôtel des Thermes'' for a few days before moving to the ''Hôtel Grande Bretagne'' (see [[Letter 4710]] to [[Modest Tchaikovsky]], 19 June/1 July 1892). Furthermore, Tchaikovsky mentioned the present letter when writing to [[Jurgenson]] on 22 June/4 July 1892 in [[Letter 4714]]: "'[[Thomas]] wrote to me, and I replied to him — but only his musical questions. He asked if I had a vocal work (not an opera), and I indicated the cantata "''[[Moscow (cantata)\|Moscow]]''". If the deal comes off then you'll need to arrange for a translation". On this basis, 24 June must be presumed to be the "new style" date, meaning that the present letter must have been written on the day of his arrival in [[Vichy]] on 12/24 June 1892.</ref>
	<ref name="note2">The autograph was auctioned on 13 December 2022 by Bonhams in [[New York]] [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27633/lot/92/tchaikovsky-mentions-his-moscow-cantata-tchaikovsky-pyotr-illyich-1840-1893-autograph-letter-signed-p-tchaikovsky-to-friend-and-conductor-theodore-thomas-regarding-an-upcoming-performance-and-a-possible-new-work/]</ref>		<ref name="note2">The autograph was auctioned on 13 December 2022 by Bonhams in [[New York]] [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27633/lot/92/tchaikovsky-mentions-his-moscow-cantata-tchaikovsky-pyotr-illyich-1840-1893-autograph-letter-signed-p-tchaikovsky-to-friend-and-conductor-theodore-thomas-regarding-an-upcoming-performance-and-a-possible-new-work/]</ref>
	<ref name="note3">[[Theodore Thomas]] had given the American premiere of Tchaikovsky's [[Symphony No. 5]] at the Chickering Hall in New York on 21 February/5 March 1889.</ref>		<ref name="note3">[[Theodore Thomas]] had given the American premiere of Tchaikovsky's [[Symphony No. 5]] at the Chickering Hall in New York on 21 February/5 March 1889.</ref>
	</references>		</references>

Brett: Created page with "{{letterhead |Date=12/24 June 1892 |To=Theodore Thomas |Place=Vichy |Language=German |Autograph={{locunknown}} . |Publication=Not previously published }} ==Text and Translation== {{Lettertext |Language=German |Translator=Brett Langston |Original text={{right|24 Juni 1892}} {{centre|Hoch geehrter Herr Thomas!}} Als Chorwerk kann ich besonders meine ''Cantate „Moskau“'' empfehlen. Leider ist es, glaube ich, bis jetzt nich..."

2022-12-23T11:50:22Z

Created page with "{{letterhead |Date=12/24 June 1892 <ref name="note1"/> |To=Theodore Thomas |Place=Vichy |Language=German |Autograph={{locunknown}} <ref name="note2"/>. |Publication=Not previously published }} ==Text and Translation== {{Lettertext |Language=German |Translator=Brett Langston |Original text={{right|24 Juni 1892}} {{centre|Hoch geehrter Herr Thomas!}} Als Chorwerk kann ich besonders meine ''Cantate „Moskau“'' empfehlen. Leider ist es, glaube ich, bis jetzt nich..."

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{{letterhead
|Date=12/24 June 1892 <ref name="note1"/>
|To=[[Theodore Thomas]]
|Place=[[Vichy]]
|Language=German
|Autograph={{locunknown}} <ref name="note2"/>.
|Publication=Not previously published
}}

==Text and Translation==
{{Lettertext
|Language=German
|Translator=Brett Langston
|Original text={{right|24 Juni 1892}}
{{centre|Hoch geehrter Herr Thomas!}}
Als Chorwerk kann ich besonders meine ''Cantate „Moskau“'' empfehlen. Leider ist es, glaube ich, bis jetzt nicht übersetzt werden, — das ist aber leicht zu machen und mein Freund ''Jurgenson'' kann die Übersetzung bringen. Ich kann auch für die Gelegenheit ein neues Werk schreiben, aber was? Ein symphonischer Satz wäre leicht zu machen, da ich keinen passenden Text zu einer ''Cantate'' habe. Bin aber bereit, wie wortes gesagt, wenn Sie es wünschen — ein neues Vocal-Werk componieren.

Danke Ihnen herzlich für die Aufführung meiner 5ten Symphonie.

Ihr ergebenster,
{{right|P. Tschaïkovsky}}

|Translated text={{right|24 June 1892}}
{{centre|Most respected Herr [[Theodore Thomas|Thomas]]!}}
As a choral work, I can particularly recommend my ''Cantata "[[Moscow (cantata)|Moscow]]"''. Unfortunately I do not believe it has been translated yet, but this is straightforward and my friend ''[[Jurgenson]]'' can supply you with a translation. I could also write a new work for the occasion, but what would this be? A symphonic movement would be straightforward, since I do not have any suitable text for a ''Cantata''. But I say again, I am prepared, if you wish it, to compose a new vocal work.

I thank you cordially for the performance of my [[Symphony No. 5|5th Symphony]] <ref name="note3"/>.

Your most devoted,
{{right|P. Tchaikovsky}}
}}
==Notes and References==
<references>
<ref name="note1">This letter, written on notepaper from the ''Etablissement Thermal de Vichy'', is dated simply "24 June 1892", with no indication as to whether this was an [[old style]] or [[new style]] date. Tchaikovsky visited [[Vichy]] from 12/24 June to 3/15 July that year, but he only stayed at what he called the ''Hôtel des Thermes'' for a few days before moving to the ''Hôtel Grande Bretagne'' (see [[Letter 4710]] to [[Modest Tchaikovsky]], 19 June/1 July 1892). Furthermore, Tchaikovsky mentioned the present letter when writing to [[Jurgenson]] on 22 June/4 July 1892 in [[Letter 4714]]: "'[[Thomas]] wrote to me, and I replied to him — but only his musical questions. He asked if I had a vocal work (not an opera), and I indicated the cantata "''[[Moscow (cantata)|Moscow]]''". If the deal comes off then you'll need to arrange for a translation". On this basis, 24 June must be presumed to be the "old style" date, meaning that the present letter must have been written on the day of his arrival in [[Vichy]] on 12/24 June 1892.</ref>
<ref name="note2">The autograph was auctioned on 13 December 2022 by Bonhams in [[New York]] [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/27633/lot/92/tchaikovsky-mentions-his-moscow-cantata-tchaikovsky-pyotr-illyich-1840-1893-autograph-letter-signed-p-tchaikovsky-to-friend-and-conductor-theodore-thomas-regarding-an-upcoming-performance-and-a-possible-new-work/]</ref>
<ref name="note3">[[Theodore Thomas]] had given the American premiere of Tchaikovsky's [[Symphony No. 5]] at the Chickering Hall in New York on 21 February/5 March 1889.</ref>
</references>